LISTEN: Holiday tournament review | No Shot Clock, Episode 88

No Shot Clock, the Chicago high school basketball podcast.
No Shot Clock, the Chicago high school basketball podcast.

No Shot Clock, Ep. 88: Holiday tournament review

Michael O’Brien and Joe Henricksen review the top holiday tournaments in the state and take listener questions.

-Which teams are poised for major runs after the holidays?
-Can Curie finish the regular season undefeated?
-Two takes from Pontiac, Proviso West, York, Hinsdale Central and the Big Dipper

That and more…

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3 comments

  • Spartan Nation

    Mike and Joe, Mike mentioned “The Dipper” still having the crowds and atmosphere at that tournament. I agree with you there. One team “The Dipper” needs to get back is Bloom. Marian has left, but a good number of fans in the South Suburbs that watch and/or support Bloom have expressed discomfort with them leaving for Pontiac and causing a void in this tournament. The fans really liked watching Bloom, their staple South Suburban program, play in a “local” tournament that was consistently competitive each year. Seton and Hales are closed/transitioning. Those institutions provided good competition for a solid Chicago/Suburban mix each year since I was a kid. Leo was part of that as well. The problem that started the decline of the tournament that no one really talks about was when the Rich School’s (specifically Central and South) really started declining as program’s. They use to be a threat for the Semi’s pretty much every year.
    Now they barely even get to the Quarter’s, and they don’t have the caliber of players I saw 15-20 years ago. When you have THREE teams in a tournament playing at a mediocre level like that EVERY year, it sinks the gamesmanship. When Crete and Marian became solid/good program’s in the very late 2000’s, they kept the tournament afloat and hanging on for dear life when the Rich School’s began their decline. But now that Bloom, Marian and Crete are gone, and Seton and Hales are closed/transitioning, it’s not the same anymore and it’s sinking! I know it’s going to almost be impossible to get Bloom back next season because of all the returning talent they’ll have. But eventually you have to get them back from Pontiac, and add in some new South Suburban pieces like T.F. North/South, Thornridge, or like you mentioned, Oak Lawn..

  • Spartan Nation

    Mike and Joe, Mike mentioned “The Dipper” still having the crowds and atmosphere at that tournament. I agree with you there. One team “The Dipper” needs to get back is Bloom. Marian has left, but a good number of fans in the South Suburbs that watch and/or support Bloom have expressed discomfort with them leaving for Pontiac and causing a void in this tournament. The fans really liked watching Bloom, their staple South Suburban program, play in a “local” tournament that was consistently competitive each year. Seton and Hales are closed/transitioning. Those institutions provided good competition for a solid Chicago/Suburban mix each year since I was a kid. Leo was part of that as well. The problem that started the decline of the tournament that no one really talks about was when the Rich School’s (specifically Central and South) really started declining as program’s. They use to be a threat for the Semi’s pretty much every year.
    Now they barely even get to the Quarter’s, and they don’t have the caliber of players I saw 15-20 years ago. When you have THREE teams in a tournament playing at a mediocre level like that EVERY year, it sinks the gamesmanship. When Crete and Marian became solid/good program’s in the very late 2000’s, they kept the tournament afloat and hanging on for dear life when the Rich School’s began their decline. But now that Bloom, Marian and Crete are gone, and Seton and Hales are closed/transitioning, it’s not the same anymore and it’s sinking! I know it’s going to almost be impossible to get Bloom back next season because of all the returning talent they’ll have. But eventually you have to get them back from Pontiac, and add in some new South Suburban pieces like T.F. North/South, Thornridge, or like you mentioned, Oak Lawn.

  • NT FAN

    Great podcast, I couldn’t agree more with your takes on NT Joe. They are a very good team that will struggle against city teams that press. That being said, they are 14-2 with their only losses coming to #1 Curie and #20 Lincoln Park (by 1). I’m just confused how a team like Fremd could be ranked ahead of NT. Fremd is 11-3 with losses to Lake Forest Academy and Mundelein! Fremd beat GBS at Wheeling but so did NT and it was at GBS! If you’re saying that the Fremd win vs Waukegan (a team you just said was not that good) outweighs NT wins at Loyola, at Maine South, Oak Park by 20…then fine…but you can’t discount losses to 2 mediocre at best teams in Lake Forest Academy and Mundelein.

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